Originally Posted by GUWonder
You can imagine fits everywhre if you wish, but that will not make such a characterization accurate. Some of us are deliberate, calm and calculating opponents of foolish, wasteful, and reactionary "security" provisions that go against the grain of civilization and the best of America.
That is kind of my point. Some of you may have very thought out reasonings and platforms but you dont come across that way!!!! When every single issue is met with over the top "sue em", "I wont do it no matter what", "they are wrong no matter what they say or do", it comes across as fanatic babbling.
And I do not mean that as a personal attack on anyone. but I started out coming to this forum because I too have real security concerns and truth, found most (or at least perceived most) as so radical and ridiculous that little that was said could be taken seriously!!!! And serious conversations break down into rhetoric and ravings!!!!!
It would be nice to see more serious conversation and reasonings and less mantras, hate and behavior that we know if most of you actually carried out what you claim on here you wouldnt ever be allowed to fly anywhere.
And NO I dont think everything kip does is right, or anyone in security. But I choose to make an issue by issue analysis and decision and articulate why I think it is right or wrong not just chant and shoot from the hip!