<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">the list price J fare is slowly becoming an obsolete fiction in today's economic and informational environments (witness all of the Z specials for the last six weeks of this year and be prepared to see a whole lot more of them as time goes by.</font>
This is very true. It seems like people are heading to airlines like Jet Blue, Southwest and Frontier in droves these days. None of these airlines offer a premium cabin. Maybe the perfect answer to the dilemna of nobody being willing to pay for these seats any longer is to eliminate them. The airlines could spread the seats in economy out to allow just a couple inches more leg room and add a few more rows. This way there would be no argument over who was upgraded and who wasn't.