Some of the issue is with flight crews who forget the sign is on. I imagine things can get busy up front and if they are dealing with some routing or weather or ATC instructions, it might be something that gets overlooked. I guess I don't understand why the person who has to get up doesn't just ring the call light so the FA can find out if the sign needs to be on. Those are the same idiots who will sue the airline if they get tossed against the ceiling while they are up.

Then there are the folks who have connections and decide that the instant the wheels stop turning for any reason, it's time to jump out of the window seat and start grabbing their stuff. Yep, window seat. Guess they figure the pilot is dropping them off at their outbound flight. And then no matter what the Captain or flight attendants say, those folks won't get out of that aisle. "It's ok, I'll just sit on my suitcase." Sometimes I think that an extra strong braking effort at the chocks might be designed to send a message to those folks.

I've seen a couple FAs take their seats at absolutely the last instance before take off or landing. Last night, the purser was a little slow tidying up the F galley and was tossing things into bins as the plane rolled onto the active. We were number one from the gate and the tower had them keep it rolling from the taxiway right on to the runway. On another flight, the FA was gabbing a bit too much and got into the jumpseat pretty much as we were over the numbers. I suppose that happens a lot, but I wonder what the rules say.