Originally Posted by underpressure

Take one trip to Itewon, South Korea..... it's out there.

At the shop where I bought some "legitimate" Tumi and Bree, The guy told me that the manufacturer has a contract and they automatically write off x% as scrap and that is where it ends up.

He also said there are many counterfeits there. And I saw them.

I have also personally seen a boatload in Shanghai.