As a parent, I can almost tell which of you has kids and which of you do not from your posts. Just because you have friends that have kids does not mean you know what it is like to travel with them. As for those of you that have the elitist mentality that the children should not ride in first, you need only read the newspaper to see what some of the "adults" are doing in first class! Everybody remembers the gentleman that "relieved" himself on the drink cart, and more recently the passenger who tried to crash the BA 747 after getting into the cockpit. I would much rather hear any child crying than to have to deal with these "adults". As for keeping the children in coach, what happens when they are in the first row of coach and you can still hear them thru the curtain to your seat in first? Must the children then be kept back far enough so that the "snobs" cannot hear them? Let's all lighten up people and remember that we are all human beings!