I agree about choosing a Camry over a Taurus any day of the week. The SE over the LE for sure. I've never driven the latest Camry, but from what I read the SE additions don't make it a sports sedan along G35 lines. However, they do add more control and sportier capabilities to the softest of the major Japanese family sedans. I'd drive the Camry over the Korean sedans currently offered, although the new 2006 Sonata may change that.