Originally Posted by GUWonder
It wasn't made on such a broad scale; you read it as being on a broad scale.
Originally Posted by GUWonder
Furthermore, the law enforcement/security types are not always or even often honest -- especially about the stopping of innocent people.
I don't see any limitations in your statement, so it a very broad (actually not getting any broader) encompassing all LE/Security types. Unless you have a limit you would like to add now.
Originally Posted by GUWonder
However, I suspect that the level of criminality and dishonesty is no lower amongst law enforcement/security types than the general population.
I appreciate that this is your opinion.
Originally Posted by GUWonder
Wrong. The data I relied upon is right; and it's not not confined to just law enforcement officers in the US.
Thank you for the link, but you read what I posted incorrectly.
This data shows that your data doesn't apply to the U.S. Thanks for clearing this up and showing that it doesn't represent the U.S.
Originally Posted by GUWonder
Actually the data and studies I reviewed are not of "a very limited capacity", in the sense you are referring to; it applied to more than just the US and to more than just law enforcement.
Correlating data from other countries with the U.S. is to the like of comparing apples to hammers. Controls would have to be introduced for civil rights and constitutional considerations which are limitless. Then I would have to wonder why this study was not made for public consumption, since this would have been an independant study of both the public and private realm on such a large scale. Thus, the embarrassment factor of one agency would not apply.
Originally Posted by GUWonder
Not applicable.
The data I'm talking about is not confined to the US and not confined to just American local/state/federal law enforcement. Now re-evaluate what I posted from the beginning and get back to me again.
If your study shows official misconduct of just one law enforcement officer, it does apply, both morally and criminally.
I have re-evaluated your posts and have come to the conclusion that the data (if it does exist) does not support your very general statement;
Originally Posted by GUWonder
Furthermore, the law enforcement/security types are not always or even often honest -- especially about the stopping of innocent people.
nor;
Originally Posted by GUWonder
Law enforcement and security force fatalities due to murder and non-negligent homicide have not been universally decreasing since the 1975. And in the places where "stops" have been estimated to have risen the most, the numbers of law enforcement officers and security forces killed has generally risen the most there too
as it applys to the U.S.
