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Old May 11, 2005 | 6:40 pm
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Originally Posted by geoffco
If that were the case they'd still be flying them. While I miss the DC10's, there are many economic reasons that they are being phased out. Hell, CO, AA, UA all dumped them years ago.

Another thing about Hawaii is that a large number of passengers in both F and Y are on award tickets. I flew SFO-HNL 2 weeks ago and chatted a good bit with an f/a w/ 37 years in who only flies HNL routes. She stated that at least 1/3 of the pax on our particular flight were mileage or non-revs. I have read before that Hawaii flights for most airlines are at best break even, however service must be retained due to prestige of the carriers route network and that their customers want to fly there.

You're also assuming 100% loads. I have heard that SEA keeps the DC10 on the HNL runs due to a contract with agencies that book Hawaii vacation packages and guarantees NW a certain number of seats. These are definetly not $600 fares.
Yes they are. The sea flight is always full when they tried doin the 757s out of here they must have gotten a half a million complaints finally they went back to the 10s I have been an unlucky one who had to pay a full fare FC ticket on a 757 last fall before the 10s started up again. yuk. BTW are you and your fa lady saying that 2/3rds of the sea hnl are paying FC? sounds like a money maker. Also the non paying fares are really paying with miles that are counted as liabilities on NWs books. And as so many have complained they arent gettin the cheap point upgrades so nw is makin out
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