Originally Posted by UA_Flyer
I did the following flights on 772 last week:
ORD-NRT (883)
The plane was 777XP based on Seatguru.com. Row 17 through 20 were regular E+ seats. In the pre-departure announcement, the Captain said, due to the strong headwind, they have two teams of flight crews on board.
NRT-SIN (837)
It was a 777XC/XI (based on Seatguru), row 17 through 20 were crew rest seats with footrests. It was a longer than usual flight (over 7 hours) due to strong headwind. I sat in 17G, and observed that cabin crews took rest with curtains drawn.
SIN-NRT (838)
It was a 777XC/XI (based on Seatguru), row 17 to 20 were sitting with passengers. I was a little surprised, because I called SIN CTO less than 24 hours before the flight to see if those seats were open to passengers, but was told crews were going to use them. Not a big deal.
NRT-SFO (852)
It was the exact same aircraft from the 838 flights. This time around, the seats in row 17 to 20 were reserved for FA with curtains fully drawn. There was a strong tailwind of 125 miles per hour. The flight took about 7 hours and change, which was almost the same amount time it took to fly from NRT to SIN (837 mentioned above)
Questions:
1. On the 777XP (flight 883), where are the crew resting areas? There were two teams of flight crews on that flight.
2. Is it usual to have cabin crew resting on Intra-Asia flights? UA 837 was the first time I see rotating crews taking term resting.
3. If crews are allowed to rest on NRT-SIN, then why crews weren’t doing the same on UA 838 SIN-NRT? ( over six-hour flight)
4. Is the 7 hours the cut-off point between rest and no rest? On 852 (Transpac) and 837 (Intra-Asia), crew rest areas were blocked off for crew rest. Both flights were over 7 hours.
Just to be clear, pilot crew rest and F/A crew rest and scheduling are totally different things. On the ORD-NRT, the Captain was most likely referring to two pilot crews. UA never has two totally different F/A crews. On F/A crew rest flights, the F/As always rotate the rest so that only part of the crew is down at one time.
On the XP, the F/A crew rest is under the lavs at Door 3. Pilot crew rest is in bunks on the left side of the plane behind the cockpit (where the left-hand FC lav is on other 777s).
For F/A rest, the cut-off is eight hours scheduled block time (i.e., the flight times that would be showing in the timetable), or seven hours if it is an overnight flight. So it would not be usual to have F/A crew rest on intra-Asia flights, which are all (I think -- at least off the top of my head) daylight flights scheduled under eight hours. Either something unusual was going on, or the crew was taking little cat naps when they weren't supposed to be. (Oops -- busted!) I am not sure how pilot rest is scheduled or what the regs are for them.