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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 10:09 am
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Originally Posted by DMorris
When a Japanese pilot crash landed his Zero on the island of Niihau, a few of the local Japanese aided him, provided protection, and guarded his flight plans and documents.
Not "a few of the local Japanese" just one couple: Yoshio and Irene Harada. Hardly sufficient grounds to suspect the entire Japanese-American population.

In the 1950's, a Jewish American couple, Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, gave American atomic secrets to the Russians. A Jew prosecuted them, a jury with Jewish members convicted them, and a Jewish judge sentenced them to the death penalty. The Haradas were no more typical of Japanese Americans than the Rosenbergs were of Jewish Americans.

Originally Posted by DMorris
The attacks on the Ellwood oil field in Oregon and the Goleta oil fields ...were all aided by Japanese in the U.S who in engaged in espionage and gathered and provided strategic information.
The senior officer of the Japanese submarine was Nobukiyo Nambu. He said that his submarine was cruising the west coast of California looking for a place to shell. Nambu explained, "One plan was to bombard San Francisco. We looked around for a logical lace, but couldn't find anywhere we could get in close enough to make any damage with our cannon."

The Ellwood oil tanks could make a big explosion if the Japanese got in close enough to hit them. Nambu recalled, "We were scared. We fired 20 shells as fast as we could. When our gun began to fire, I could hear cars braking to stop, then sirens followed." It took about three minute to fire all the shells.

Results: In all, the submarine fired the 20 rounds with a 5-1/2 inch gun. They were trying to hit the oil tanks at the Ellwood oil fields. They only hit a wooden catwalk. If Japanese-Americans had provided them with intelligence, it was not very helpful intelligence.

Originally Posted by DMorris
General Patton, in 1937, while stationed in Oahu was very concerned about the growing fifth column of Japanese who were gathering general information on U.S. military activities and were loyal to Japan.

Although a tactical genius, Patton was not known for his very good judgement. At the end of WWII he wanted to enlist the entire Wehrmacht for an immediate attack on the Soviet Union.

Originally Posted by DMorris
In that same year a group of Japanese formed the Japanese Military Servicemens League based in San Francisco, which grew to more than 12,000 members by 1941.
There was also a very large German-American bund movement on the East Coast. Both these organizations proved useless to the enemy once the war began.

Originally Posted by DMorris
Within one week of Pearl Harbor 1,002 Germans and 169 Italians were apprehended by the FBI. During the course of WW II 10,905 Germans and 3,278 Italains were interned. (Your points 4 and 5 are also false.) In California over 10,000 Italian enemy aliens were evacuated from their homes and over 60,000 were placed on a strict curfew.
You are comparing apples and oranges. I am discussing Americans of Japanese descent who were interned. You are talking about enemy aliens. Jumpin' Joe DiMaggio did not worry about being sent to an internment camp.
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