Originally Posted by
JALPak
Perhaps you should rephrase that as if you are Tokyo based what other choices do you have without making a great detour. Most of the Japan is already making a great detour if they want to stick to Tokyo Airlines and All Tokyo Airways on their international trips.
That is true, cause most of the international routes are only from Tokyo. I don't know if you are based in Tokyo or not, so I used Japan lol... I think it might be easier to make a decision if you are in Osaka cause you likely have to transit anyway so it's easier to choose another foreign airline and stick with it. I do wonder what other options you have in mind if you are based in Tokyo? I mean I do make an effort in the past to fly via Tokyo on JL to other places even though I am not based in Tokyo, but what would be your options?
Originally Posted by
Unimatrix One
What? Here in Tokyo we have tons of choices. And we are also blessed with two national carriers that compete directly on almost every route. This is why I feel like JL is being really stupid if they actually plan to degrade their product. Enshittification only works if you have a near-captive customer base with few choices. That's why UA is so successful despite their abysmal inflight product -- they have lots of hub captives and a huge network advantage. JL has neither of those things, and anyone who becomes unhappy with JL can easily stroll over to NH.
I am not too sure about that cause I don't think NH is much better than JL in most (or certain) areas. JL and NH are shoulders above the American carriers but they are probably 50/50 to each other in many area. Some NH wins, some JL wins (or loses if you think they are racing to the bottom). Then, if you are based in Tokyo and don't opt with JL or NH, it's not going to be very fun to stick with UA's membership program and then fly SQ or LH (as an example) to Southeast Asia and Europe with multi-stops when your destination is neither Singapore nor Germany.