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Old Nov 19, 2025 | 7:35 am
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Originally Posted by HadesNL
Honestly the drivel " Premium Clubs, a growing collection of exclusive, on-property clubs, most commonly found at Hilton’s luxury, lifestyle or full-service hotels " screams to me that hotel owners of Doubletree, Hilton, Tapestry, Curio, LXR and Conrad will go forward in 2026 changing the name "executive" lounge to "frou frou name" premium lounge to evade the lounge operating as costcenter and within the 2027 new diamond reserve tier deployment timeline .
That was always the obvious concern I had. I naively didn't post that concern when the changes were first mentioned since I did not want to give any property owners any ideas. However, this is something Hilton is going to have to control if they want to encourage people to book sufficiently to achieve Diamond since that is the key differentiator between Gold and Diamond for most people. I cannot see it being beneficial for Hilton to suddenly find that a number of former Diamond members elected to stop booking after they achieved Gold at the new lower qualification requirement since they saw no benefit from maintaining Diamond absent lounge access. Removal or watering down of lounge access by allowing non-WA properties to suddenly convert their exec lounge into "club" or "premium" lounges would swiftly have me moving my business elswhere.

Originally Posted by aww3583
It'll be interesting to see how Hilton IT incorporates these changes.

Since I'm a LTD, Hilton doesn't track my lifetime base points anymore. How do we feel the tracking of annual base points is going to go from an accuracy and timeliness standpoint? I know when I swipe my DL AMEX Reserve, my "pending MQDs" updates within 12-24 hours. However, Hilton's points posting can take 1-3 days past check-out.

Now that more hotels are going to 3rd party services for parking and pantry spending, getting that $18k in spending is even more difficult. Parking and grab-and-go F&B used to be easy ways to get some additional spend, but now more and more ancillary spending is app-based or kiosk-based. Is there any workaround to get these charges put back onto your room?
Which is why Diamond without lounge access is of little benefit. True, I have had some good upgrades but they are few and far between.

Originally Posted by aww3583
It'll be interesting to see how Hilton IT incorporates these changes.

Since I'm a LTD, Hilton doesn't track my lifetime base points anymore. How do we feel the tracking of annual base points is going to go from an accuracy and timeliness standpoint? I know when I swipe my DL AMEX Reserve, my "pending MQDs" updates within 12-24 hours. However, Hilton's points posting can take 1-3 days past check-out.

Now that more hotels are going to 3rd party services for parking and pantry spending, getting that $18k in spending is even more difficult. Parking and grab-and-go F&B used to be easy ways to get some additional spend, but now more and more ancillary spending is app-based or kiosk-based. Is there any workaround to get these charges put back onto your room?
Does third party spending qualify for points if put on your room?

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