Originally Posted by
Happy
Or for that matter I have to surrender my right to abode in Hong Kong / HKSAR Passport before I am eligible to get a Chinese Visa with US Passport.
I'll correct you here - if you renounce Chinese nationality
you still keep HKPR https://www.immd.gov.hk/eng/services...tionality.html
So essentially you surrender your HKSAR passport, your HKID gets exchanged for one without 3* because you're no longer Chinese citizen eligible for HK re-entry permit
https://www.immd.gov.hk/pdforms/rop133.pdf and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_Re-entry_Permit
You retain "A" as HKPR, and "Z" because you're born here.
If as US Citizen you keep visiting for any length of time (10 minutes between flights even - just a long as you cross border control) every three years you retain HKPR.
If you don't, your status changes to HK Right To Land ("A" gets changed to "R"). RTL is HKPR minus right to vote and also the government/party has the right to deport you.
As HKPR might even be eligible for a non-Chinese citizen Mainland Travel Permit but I've yet to see anyone test this theory out.
If you renounce it's clean - you can't be "claimed" as a Chinese citizen and you can't be refused a visa or TWOV because they think you may be a citizen.
It's a step I recommended to my brother due to his views - submission by post to Immd or a Chinese consulate or embassy is acceptable.
But until you take that step, you can't be Reverse Eileen Gu and claim to be American in China.
And loss of HKPR is not an excuse (because you retain it - but you're subject to visit requirements to retain it).
Originally Posted by
Happy
And that Permit is not easy to obtain these days. They always can find something to make it an impossible task if you are not actually living in Hong Kong. I did try in the past, twice, to no avail.
Such as? You don't even need an address proof
Ezone
You need at least one in-person visit to China Travel Service in HK, sure.
It will help if you have a HK address or agent for CTS to mail the issued HRP to - you've no HK relos or contacts? (I don't find that requirement onerous - I have my brother receive my Australian Amex and debit cards by mail because they can't be sent overseas)
Where did you apply to in the last two attempts? No other application venues outside of HK/Macau/Mainland (i.e. not your Florida consulate...)
Originally Posted by
Happy
OTOH, TWOV is very easy to arrange.
A Chinese Citizen of HK (if that's who the party thinks you are) isn't allowed to travel within China on TWOV.
There are very limited 24hr TWOV for CAN/PVG/PEK/PKX, with no permission for cross-province or cross-city given.
In previous versions of Timatic, I don't remember HKSAR holders being even given that.
Article 4 of the 15 May 1996 Explanations
https://www.immd.gov.hk/eng/resident...inese/law.html (the document currently allowing Chinese Citizens of HK to have dual nationality) only mentions using foreign travel documents to "
travelling to other countries and territories".
Not within China.