Originally Posted by
PLeblond
Please feel free to brush off my comments as nonsense.
I don't think anyone's trying to be that confrontational - I just think you're just drawing too much conclusion from that data.
Originally Posted by
PLeblond
Air France and KLM are trying to entice Flying Blue members ex-US and also from Canada to travel on their metal to/via Amsterdam or Paris.
Sure, and Air Canada's been working over time for many years now to entice TATL / TPAC customers away from the US3. That hasn't meant AC's own demand was collapsing, only that they identified an area for potential growth and have been pursuing it.
Put another way; the gross-revenue increase AF/KL gets from winning one YVR-AMS-FCO customer away from AC, is about equal to the gross-revenue increase - and likely much better on the net-profit side - than they'd get from winning six AMS-DUB customers away from Ryanair. As Adam notes, they've got the capacity, they're pushing into the North American market, and to fill up those expansions they can either convince new people to travel, or convince existing travellers to choose them instead of AC or Delta.
So, yeah, it'd be weird if we *weren't* seeing them run some aggressive promos.