I have to disagree with this part. My boss is DM, I'm FO now, will be PM by end of the year. He usually books both of our tickets together, same resi. We're ATL based. I've been upgraded to F to MIA, SJC, DFW, TUL, and PHL. But routing through MSP or SLC for connections, nope. It's the big Hub to Hub routes and the biggest business routes where it's hardest to get upgraded. On other routes, you've got a good chance. Most of our upgrades are well in advance of DoD.