No problem with that either. As a long time proponent of " want F pay F" and having been screwed during IRROPS where my F seat became some kind of E negative I fully understand what they are doing. My point is for the majority of business travelers PP's are joke. I throw them at EVERYTHING I book and don't even expect them to clear. On this flight into KOA I had my usual "hobo first" seat in E+ and have lived with the seat faithfully for years...LOL As long as they can sell F they will. Virtually all my upgrades over the past few years have either been at boarding or even actually when seated. It is what it is.....