Originally Posted by bocastephen
Check out the boyd consulting site for an interesting take on the 787 vs. 380 battle...including the first public opt-out from a major airport - Atlanta
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
Check out the boyd consulting site for an interesting take on the 787 vs. 380 battle...including the first public opt-out from a major airport - Atlanta
scroll down about half way
Very interesting website, Thanks for the link !! ^
However a typical consulting page...
There is no doubt that Boeing or Airbus will sell more 787 or A 330-500/600 than A 380, I think Boeing has sold 1200+ B 747 in 30+ years and how many 737 ? More than 3000 or 3500 ?!
My problem is that the thing did not fly so far, so all the speculation about savings is speculation at this point, cause all the talk about light materials and super efficient enigines is not realistic, cause nobody knows if these engines are available and all suppliers in the sector had huge problems creating a working engine for the 777 and all engines were always ( since the the first day of jet enigines ) thirsty, and always needed more fuel than expected...
BTW, same problem for the A 380, it became heavier than expected and it did not fly and nobody knows exactly how high the operating costs are and in this industry one % point or two can make a huge difference...
That is where the story gets irrelevant, we are not taking about selling by the mass, we are talking about making money, which is a huge US legacy carrier problem and ( IMO ) the reason why they could not order any 787 so far, also pointed out by some..
It would be the perfect airplane for basically all US legacy carriers, because all serve international routes on smaller aircraft, NW and UA TPAC excluded...
So as long as both are making money without unfair subsidaries everybody is happy...
As for ATL, probably a smart decision, they will eventually upgrade their facilities ( which they have to do anyway, once a really nice megaport, it has become really crappy ) when AF tells them to be ready for an A 380, but on the other hand they are facing a huge problem...
On the other hand, Airbus is already in intensive talks with the administrations around the globe to lower the requirements for the run and taxiways from 60 metres down to 45-50 metres, which is the standard anyway, so no big problem there...
Since DL was able to lose $ 2.2 billion in three months ATL could likely become an airport, where 60 % of the concourses will simply not be used anymore, probably the biggest ghost airport on this planet....
Once again, Thanks for the link !