Problem is they couldn't care less, I understand what you're saying and agree the management frankly caring less about what you think. I think many of the properties in the islands are reaching the point that many people simply cannot afford the cost of their vacation. I witnessed that a few months ago when we were there lots of shoppers fewer "bags" The cruise lines are also beginning to experience the same push back, drink packages are $100 plus a day per person, more eating venues that are not included in the cruise fare coupled with the consent up selling is becoming unbearable. No one disputes that costs have risen but the hard drive to the bottom line is reaching a unbelievable point.