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Old Mar 17, 2025 | 2:00 am
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Originally Posted by father_ted
The whole 'not customer facing' barrier concept is in my view a symptom of a more general malaise in any organisation.

Of course there can be front-line customer service staff with a lower level of training, and the aim should be for the maximum number of queries to be resolved (correctly) by the cheapest staff, but it should be possible to escalate an issue all the way to the top if it is serious enough. And a properly managed and resourced organisation should ensure that is never necessary because the issue gets resolved at a lower level. Resolution can include telling the customer to get lost, of course.
I think many will acknowledge that I am quite critical of BA's systems and organisations to say the least, but in this particular case, I have to point out that to my knowledge, regardless of the airline, the fraud teams are never directly reachable (it's more than not customer facing, it is actually impossible to reach out to directly which is different). It's always a case of them reaching out to you if and want they need to or have a conclusion to deliver.

I think that in this case, this is not about money or service, it is about purpose. Fraud teams are not there to serve and protect the customer, they are there to serve and protect the airline, some times regarding massive amounts. The idea is to prevent risk of intimidation, corruption, influence etc and ensuring that investigations happen in as effective a way as possible, be it externally or even internally.

The customer facing route is the same as usual (ie you can call customer service), but it will know nothing, have no way of discussing with those who know, and will tell you that. And that is basically it. There is no "customer service" to be had because from the point of view of the fraud team, the passenger is not the customer. Here, we obviously all know of the OP as a victim, but that is not the way the fraud team will operate. For them, the victim is the airline, they know that something untoward has happened and they are trying to figure out what and how. In due time, they will undoubtedly reach the conclusion that the OP is a second victim here and return the avios, but that will be a conclusion, not a starting assumption.


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