Originally Posted by Petrus

This is a tragedy beyond words. Unless some evidence and facts are presented to the contrary (obviously, but I just cannot believe from the current known) there has to be major human errors outside the concrete wall, contributing to the catastrophic outcome.

It doesn't make any sense:

- No flaps or spoilers what so ever
- No landing gear
- High speed belly landing nearly a mile down the RWY
- RH engine has full thrust at landing (jet blast can be seen)
- Engine cowl open (indicating reverse thrust applied)
- If overspeed was a factor, why not glide further and ditch? Plane was more configured for a ditch by the looks of things)
- Confirmed bird-strike on one engine, technically not an issue flying with one engine. If Scully situation, then you're a glider... but with the previous points that adds so many other questions to the glider scenario
- Why the freakin fox do they put an elevated hill with reinforced concrete less than 250 meters from RWY end? In addition to that there are concrete block walls as perimeter fence less than a 100 meters after the elevated Localizer antenna wall...

And The Elephant in the room; South Korean carriers have an awful safety record statistically speaking. Rich history of incidents due to Pilot Error caused by lack of CRM among other issues. Sincerely hope we are proven wrong in this tragedy.