Originally Posted by
clubord
Flight Time
8+ hours - 3 pilots
12+ hours - 4 pilots
* If we need an IRO only on the way back it is still augmented both ways.
Ah, that explains why I was getting confused, didn't think about that part.

Thanks.
Originally Posted by
bmwe92fan
There are domestic flights just as long that don’t have these requirements - so was curious…. I do realize it is plane dependent however.
Maybe it has something to do with red eyes / international?
I'm not aware of a domestic or redeye factor, only flying time. Not all planes need to take a J seat when augmented, as some have crew bunks, such as the 787s and the 773.