Thanks for your reply, WineCountryUA. I usually fly into Vienna, as I can generally find 88,000 award miles. But, this time I don't want to go there. I have been there enough times and have seen the city. As a guy in the mid 80's age, I want to fly as little as possible now, so SEA to FRA works well for me. I am willing to chance skipping VIE. I always appreciate the information you give, again thanks, I appreciate it