Originally Posted by
Longboater
ORD/IAH are fine with what UA has. Would be silly for IAH-NRT to go to IAH-HND, even with ZipAir entering the market although that is a different POS. UA's TYO issue is with IAD. No IAD-NRT flying at all. NH has downgauged the 787-9 to a 787-8. It was once operated by a 77W. Once the 772s begin retiring, I would wager UA's IAD-HND flight gets downgauged to a 787-9. Tells you how the DC to TYO has shrunk as UA once flew a 747-400 when they first started IAD-NRT back in the 2000s after ending JFK-NRT. Should NH look at switching IAD-HND to IAD-NRT? Maybe.
Anyway, the biggest US demand for NRT-CEB at least comes from NYC/SFO/LA/HNL, which UA and HND all have plenty of capacity to NRT. NRT-KHH seems to appeal as much to TYO demand as much as from the US. I would figure LA/SFO are the two largest US markets for KHH but don't quote me on that. I have no idea what the biggest demand in the US for NRT-UBN would be. NRT-ROR appeals much more to local TYO demand than anything from the US. Delta started and flew it until the end of the NRT hub, when NRT-South Seas Beach markets went away. Demand is there but there might be an issue with the weak Yen, which is why the GUM operation is struggling, hence FUK-GUM gone and would not be shocked if NGO-GUM was next. (Palau's currency is the Dollar as it is a de facto protectorate of the United States.) I'm still surprised UA didn't drop a NRT-GUM flight when they started HND-GUM.
Silly? UA applied for IAH-HND late last year but didn't get it. It's reported UA intended to leave IAH-NRT if they received the HND route authorization. So what is their strategy with regard to NRT? To me, these latest announcements look like flailing in the wind.
If United’s application is successful (note: it wasn't), the airline plans to switch its existing route from NRT to HND, highlighting that HND’s location is better for downtown Tokyo travel.
https://aviationweek.com/air-transpo...ns-dot-request