Originally Posted by Bart
Not so sure what you're talking about, but I'm going to take a stab at it and guess you're talking about a bin loader. In other words, a screener whose function it is to accept your carry-on items and load it into the x-ray for you. How I wish we had the manning for that function! Screeners know how to properly load items into the x-ray to make it easier for the x-ray operator to interpret the images. Passengers usually cram items inside of bins, leave their laptops inside of cases or insert bags standing up rather than flat on the side. This results in unnecessary bag checks or re-running bags through the x-ray for a better angle. Seems to me that the airport you went through has enough screeners to afford a designated bin loader. We were forced to drop this position due to the drawdown a couple years ago.
No. In SLC, after you check in at the ticket counter and they tag your bags, YOU have to haul them (meaning your checked bags) to the TSA guys. What sucks about this is you're not just dealing with one airline's passengers, rather multiple.
Southwest has their own as they have a separte check in area.
You're not paying attention. Allow me to rephrase: as a minimum, you are required to show your ID and boarding pass to enter the checkpoint at the checkpoint entrance itself. No ID, no boarding pass (or airline gate pass), then you don't come in. It's that simple. (There are procedures for mitigating expired IDs or insufficient ID, but that's a different topic.) IF you are required to show your ID at the ticket counter, then it's for some other reason such as the common practices that come with making major purchases with a credit card.
Come on. The airline isn't going to care about who charged what to what credit card. For all they know, you paid cash previously for that ticket. It's always been part of the "security" screening they did. Check id, ask if you packed your bags, been in your control, etc.
I should have clarified on the ID issue. I mistated my position and that's my bad.
SFO, for example, shouldn't have to card me THREE times in the line between the ticket counter and the checkpoint.
When that one guy in another thread was talking about guys with a megaphone hollering orders in the lines at SFO, he was dead on.
Let me spell it out for you. They are not federal contractors. They are private contractors hired by the airlines. Not TSA, not the FAA, not DHS, not any other government agency. They are strictly airline contractors.
Doesn't matter. You apparently don't get that people see them as you. Maybe this is yet another reason why people don't like the TSA?
Well, on this we partially agree. The Commission did come up with some pretty good recommendations. However, I don't agree with its endorsement of selectee screening nor do I think having an intelligence guru overseeing particularly the Pentagon and its various defense intelligence components is a smart thing to do. However, the Commission was appointed by Congress, and Congress expresses the Will of the People, so there you have it.
I don't buy the will of the people thing much anymore. Maybe you have more faith in Congress than I do. I've written Senators and Reps from the various states I lived in and they're more interested in sucking the corporate tit than they are the will of the people.
The people are there just to re-elect them. After that, they're forgotten about and the people with the money make the rules.
The 9/11 Commission was there for Congress to cover its butt and to look like things were getting done. It was political expediency to make sure that they kept their seats in Congress. They were more concerned about getting a bill, ANY bill passed that looked like they acted on the commission's recommendations.
You either missed my point or I misunderstood you. What makes you believe that the mother was not screened?
Based on what I've seen waiting in lines to board the planes. I've seen the same things there too on the "random" checks.
Again, what makes you think that certain people are not screened? X-ray examinations and passing through the WTMD are the primary screening methods. Pat-down (with the usual exceptions), hand-wanding, physical bag searches and explosives detection are secondary screening, or to put it in laymen's terms, follow-up screening to the primary screening methodology.
I think you're barking up the wrong tree when looking at toddlers and grandmas. Simple enough?