I should add one point. The thing to understand about JL's Apex seat vs the J seats of ANA and other airlines is that most airlines' J seats have lots of space to the side, but cram your feet into a small cubby hole in the bed position. JL's Apex seat provides much less room to the side but way more space in front. Personally I prefer the latter: massive legroom, with endless space to stretch out and a wide ottoman for my feet in bed mode. Other people prefer the former. So you may want to think about which configuration you would prefer.