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Old May 25, 2024 | 12:53 am
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Originally Posted by trueblu
Heirloom used to do this Epoisse burger that was delish and unusual, but it doesn't seem to be on their current menu.

I haven't been, and really want to go, but Mister Jiu's strikes me as offering something not easily obtained elsewhere.

There are also several "vegan Japanse" (e.g..Shizen), which again, I've had at several Bay Area restaurants, but not really seen elsewhere.

tb
I lived in Shanghai for 3 years with monthly trips to HK. Cannot really look seriously at Chinese food in the City anymore. Far better elsewhere.

I currently live in Tokyo. Have done so for 34 years. Japanese food, is best eaten in Japan. Period. As for vegan being called Shizen which means "natural" this is not correct. We call it Vegan using the katakana alphabet in most situations (ビーガン). Of course much easier to understand n Japan is the style called Shojin Ryori served at Buddhist temples and at restaurants following those principles (i.e. not killing anything) and which is as vegan as it gets. Some of these restaurants even have Michelin star ratings. And that is just in Tokyo. So much beyond Tokyo as well.

While some folks, even some Chinese immigrants and some who are of Chinese descent, claim to prefer the food in the City, for truly next level Chinese food and even remotely authentic Japanese, elsewhere (i.e the point of origin) is really the best choice.
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