Originally Posted by
Happy
You still dont understand.
First of all - Silver status is USELESS in BonVoy program. But you seem to get hung up on it because it is still an "elite" tier. However what benefits this tier gives you are FAR MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE NAME ITSELF! That is why Chase and BonVoy are playing the trick to FOOL people by cutting the most important benefit then give a phony "benefit" to cover the big negativity.
I can see this age-old marketing trick does work, because you are the live example of how folks get fooled when they dont really understand the program.
MANY BonVoy elites own Bold Card solely for the 15 elite nights versus own the fee-based (also get a 35K anniversary FN) Boundless card. A personal and a business card together can stack to give 30 eligible nights just by owning the CCs. A unique feature of Bonvoy program if you will.
Or, you can shell out $650 AF for the AMEX Brilliant and be an instant Plat + receiving 25 eligible nights. However you will NOT receive the regular Plat annual benefit that ONLY can be earned from achieving 50 nights - you will need to add another 25 eligible nights to reach 50 nights in order to choose the annual benefit after achieving Plat, not a Plat from CC. You can check out what the annual benefits are.
By the same token, you will need to add 50 nights to achieve Titanium status which annual benefits incl a 40K FN cert which is what most Titanium folks choose.
When the 15 elite nights is reduced to 5 elite nights, the Bold card is basically a rubbish card due to the extremely poor earning.
Again, the value of Bold currently solely relies on the 15 elite nights without any cost. Without it, I dont see anybody has any analytical skill / understand how a program works, would still think it is worth owning. Of course it is a big YMMV as demonstrated here.
I am perplexed that you seem to be incapable of understanding my statements when they are quantitative. It's arithmetic and should not be disputable. What's the issue?
Whether Silver level is useless in the benefits it provides or not, is not in anyway relevant and not the point I am making. The point you do not seem to be able to grasp is the arithmetic calculations that get you to the various tiers and the impact the upcoming changes will have. For the last time:
The Bonvoy programs offers several level status. I will concentrate on just silver and gold levels to make the arithmetic simple.
If you are not a Bonvoy cardholder, you need 10 nights to reach silver and 25 nights to reach gold etc.
If you are a Bonvoy cardholder, you also need 10 nights to reach silver and 25 nights to reach gold.
Being a cardholder however, gives you a credit of 15 nights and thus to get to gold, you only need to stay 10 more nights (25-15 =10).
When the changes are enacted in July: cardholders will be given silver status and in addition 5 elite nights. If a cardholder desires to get to gold they only need to stay 10 more nights
Number of nights required for gold = 25
Silver status granted/equivalent nights = 10
Additional nights granted 5
So total number of nights a cardholder would need to stay to reach gold with the program change in July will still be 10 nights (25-10-5). Exactly as it currently is.