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Old Mar 2, 2024 | 11:53 am
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Originally Posted by writetorich
How could this not have been announced by now?????????????????????

It's basically kills any value with partner carriers with very few hubs.
Think Condor and Latam.

I'm going on Latam business JFK-SCL ( 4 day stopover )- LIM
If each flight distance is measured , this mileage increase is massive!
Also for East Coasters wanting to go to Mexico , there are two flights . A full transcon and a and flight from west coast to say Los Cabos.

`Prediction - Just as Delta had to make some changes , I think Alaska on connections less than 24 hours will count initial point to final point., not each segment. Where as a real stopover
But this effective kills "free stopover"..
There's no evidence what that poster believes is true, so I wouldn't worry about it. It'll likely end up like Aeroplan's total-distance pricing, see:

Originally Posted by Smiley90
No statement from Alaska, but the way the Blogs are talking about it wouldn't make sense if it was by-segment like BA/QR. E.g.:

https://viewfromthewing.com/alaska-a...t-sweet-spots/

" Take it literally, in terms of partner non-stop routes. Connecting flights often mean longer journeys that push trips into more expensive distance bands, in some cases leading to more expensive awards.

The best value from distance-based charts often comes from maxing out distance, for instance flying West Coast – Tokyo to stay within a distance band and avoid going over… and sometimes by booking two awards to get the pricing two shorter distance bands rather than the combined higher-distance one (though this comes with risks if checking bags, misconnecting, etc.)"

"connecting flights push trips into more expensive bands" makes perfect sense in an AC/AP-style system, and makes zero sense in a BA/QR-setting.

https://www.forbes.com/advisor/credi...in-march-2024/

"These changes put Alaska’s program in line with others like Air Canada Aeroplan, which also uses a distance-based chart to price awards."


The best evidence from AS itself comes from AS's chart itself:


Hawaii: all distances 15,000 40,000 Mexico, Central America and the Caribbean: all distances 10,000 30,000


"all distances" would make no sense if it was based on per-segment, as a 6-segment itinerary would have vastly different per-segment pricing than a non-stop. It being based on total distance makes perfect sense, however - e.g. it doesn't matter how you get to Hawaii or Mexico, all flights will cost the same.



The statement that a connecting-flight might cost more than a non-stop also makes sense, if the connecting flight pushes the total distance into a new distance band it will cost more.
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