Originally Posted by
opus99
you’re right. They have definitely not always been this way. But from the day of the order announcement. Feb 28th 2019, was the same day IAG had their full year call that for 2018, WW had said 14 were for replacement of the 747 and 4 were for replacement of 777-200s. It’s on page 12 of the 2018 Q4 call transcript
I think we're saying the same thing! Replacement of the 747s and the first 772 (non ERs). The 779s weren't meant to replace the 77Es, originally.
Originally Posted by
opus99
as for believing Boeing. I don’t think any of us knew just how much of a s****show that whole operation actually was and still is. But alas what can they do at this point. Just take the aircraft when it comes in 26
I'd start things off by not buying Boeing. I honestly don't know what possesses those in BA who influence IAG's decisions, but if one looks at past performance we had the 788s arriving some 7 years late; the 789s were delivered in a state that was borderline shocking; the 78Xs are both late and badly built. Now the 779s are about 4 years late, and counting. Latest I've heard (fourth hand rumours, granted) was that the CAA reckoned they were at least 2 years away, based on previous experience, from certifying the type in the UK. Entry into service of the 788s was bad too, it wasn't called the Plastic Pig for nothing. The 380 didn't arrive on time either, but all of its problems are due to (before Covid) lack of reserve planes and heavy use and (after Covid) the impact of storing them. The 350 EIS was a breeze, ditto for the 32x neos.
I really liked working with Boeing back in the day, I found my stakeholders to be a lot more positive and solution-finding than the Airbus folks, but the product is just not there.