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Old Feb 20, 2024 | 3:20 am
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Originally Posted by vinnyc
No, you can "upgrade in advance" using miles. It is different than the promotional upgrade offer (for cash) at OLCI.

The amount of miles required is fixed and there is a chart for that. For example, to upgrade from Premium Economy fare class A into Business Class on a NYC-CDG route, it is 35,000 miles, but 25,000 miles if from fare class S or 15,000 miles if from W fare class.

To answer natcho , FB uses a hybrid "dynamic/fixed amount chart" for its awards:
- as long as there is a cash ticket for sale, you can get it with miles (hence sometimes the absurdly high amount of miles like 800k miles on a CDJ-JFK in J).
- for the lowest redemption values (50,000 miles in J for a CDJ-JFK), you still need to tap into the "O" fare class.

For upgrades in advance using miles, you can tap only into the O fare class (the lowest redemption value) – same as an outright award purchase into the lowest redemption award.

If you are Platinum, you can upgrade in advance by tapping additionally into the Z fare class.

So the agent was correct. You see an award ticket in Business Class for sale at 200,000 miles on your JNB-CDG because, by virtue of dynamic pricing, it means that there must be a cash/revenue ticket in fare class Z or I. If there was an O available (the lowest), it would be priced at around 70,000 miles (I don't know the JNB-CDG route very well so I am throwing out this number randomly). If the O was available (or Z if you are Platinum), then, as booked in PE fare class A, you would need only around 35,000–45,000 miles to upgrade.
Is there a table somewhere for costs of upgrading using miles (pre-OLCI)?
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