Originally Posted by
SuperEWR
The "basic math" doesn't pencil out. Air France flies an A350-900, same plane as Delta's A350-900, with Safran Optima seats, the same seat as United's Polaris. Air France fits 34 Optima seats in between doors 1 and 2 along with half a galley, while Delta manages to fit 32 seats in between doors 1 and 2 with no galley and the center row 9 seats going into the space between doors 2. You can definitely cram in 1 more row of Optima seats and match the amount of space that D1 is taking up, maybe even cram in a second row in the center, so that would result in 38-40 Optima seats taking up the same space as 32 D1 seats, or 19-25% more seats vs D1. If the difference in the number of J seats is due solely to density, a 40J "high-J" (for a handful of the most premium routes) D1 cabin implies a 48-50 seat Polaris cabin for premium routes on an A350-900 sized plane. Does that match up with how UA has configured the planes that it uses for premium routes (let alone the most premium)? Not at all. I would argue that the 787-9, 777-200 and 777-300ER are most comparable to the regular 32J D1 as UA flies a large fleet of each of those aircraft on a variety of (mostly premium long-haul) routes, while the high-J 767 is a a small sub-fleet serving the specific purpose of putting in more J capacity for a handful of routes with outsized premium demand, while the new high-J A350 is (at least from indications so far) a small sub-fleet serving the specific purpose of making the South African extra-long routes feasible by cutting down passenger count.
1) You're comparing things that aren't really comparable, United and Delta are fundamentally different carriers. Just because United feels like they could fill the demand doesn't mean that DL thinks the same OR wants to have a larger D1 cabin.
2) The LATAM A350s should be getting this configuration as well; it is not going to be a niche fleet.
3) I think you have misinterpreted what 'density' meant in this conversation.