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Old Oct 5, 2023 | 3:29 am
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Originally Posted by nacho
But does AC flies to Copenhagen from YVR? YUL-CPH is a seasonal operation only.
Originally Posted by jamesbrownontheroad
I think there is a misunderstanding here. AC is cited as an example of a carrier with three major long-haul hubs (irrespective of whether they fly to CPH).
Originally Posted by GUWonder
I find all this talk about the Scandinavian ethnic origin population in Minnesota/Upper Midwest being a factor to get SAS and/or Delta to run a route between MSP and CPH/ARN and perhaps even as a replacement for ORD to be funny. The primary reason DL even went to KEF from MSP was to try to hit at Icelandair and its US expansion. And people of Icelandic origin barely register in the area. They didn’t do MSP-ARN/CPH or even OSL for a reason — and note that the Norwegian consulate was basically the last consulate standing around MSP. And most of the Scandinavian origin people in the region probably have as much or more Germanic origin heritage and don’t even have any close ties to Scandinavia and have probably never before been. And business ties between Scandinavia and the Upper Midwest are greater around the Chicago area than around the MSP area.



Canada has a significantly larger population than all of the Nordic countries combined, and the demographic and business dynamics of Canada are rather materially different than in the Nordic countries. And the Canadian market has a big assist given Canada borders the US. SAS’s home market area is lacking in those advantages that make it more feasible for AC to have 3 hubs — although I experience it sort of as one big hub and two lesser hubs than as three co-equal hubs — than for SAS to do the same. Also, AC has sort of more market power than SAS does as a result of Canadair being long gone and Westjet being far short of being co-equal to Air Canada. The UK market may be a better comparison to the SAS home market than the Canadian market — and British Airways is basically London Air.
I only mentioned AC as another examples with multiple hubs or airports with long-hauls.

I do find it fascinating that the Japanese carriers don't do much long hauls outside of Tokyo despite having a few densely populated cities. Canada with a population roughly three times smaller than Japan can sustain more long-hauls out of three cities that are much smaller than Osaka, Nagoya, and Tokyo. Even YYC has a few long-hauls. Imagine if Canada did something similar where all long-hauls are out of YYZ.
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