Thanks Mwenenzi, sorry yes that is what I meant by the alliance. I collected points on Emirates, Turkish Airlines, and BA FF programmes in the past but never used the points jointly within an alliance so spent it on rubbish. So have a few outstanding Avios from BA from last year I will add on when I sign up to the alliance and avios that are due to expire. Slowly reading about how it all works.

I have the skyteam and Alfursan website up but not got round to signing up, still planning my trip.

Thanks so much for the links. Gutted flew with KLM a few times never AF.