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Old Sep 11, 2023 | 12:44 pm
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Originally Posted by moondog
To be fair, those are just concept drawings. Presumably, angle (wrt the center line), length, and width are all variables that can be adjusted.
The 49 degree angle is a sweet spot for the dimensions of a single-aisle plane and desired bed length and cabin density. It also drives all the crash testing standards. I would not expect that to change. Pitch (which is effectively seat width now, not length) could change. But I'd bet there's a reason the 28" metric is used as the default in the patent filing.

Originally Posted by Kmxu
Why does not UA adopt a narrower version of the Polaris seat from B767?
Because it won't fit with any reasonable density. And United isn't going to fly a plane with 8 J seats when it can fit 28 in the same space.

Originally Posted by JimInOhio
I gather what's showing in the patent application is a more severe angling of the seats toward the aisle to achieve a higher density versus what JetBlue is doing.
Yes, the angle is sharper. And there's the overlap "arm well" space sharing added on.

Originally Posted by hch
Why does everyone assume a patent filing leads to a product? At least in the industry I work in, basically everything that seems novel and a good idea will be filled no matter if it is productized or not.
Different industries are different. Airlines really don't just run around spending time/energy/money on picking random seat designs to patent. Some seat designers might and the inventors on this patent work for Acumen, not United. But United is listed as the assignee of the patent, which means the carrier gets to use it.

These are obviously not final drawings with the UA trim/finish applied. But I would be very, very surprised if the seats don't substantially resemble these drawings when unveiled. Especially the arm well overlap.
Originally Posted by Kacee
I haven't flown the new Mint or any of the non-US carrier options. But AA uses the Cirrus reverse herringbone in its 321-T and that's an excellent seat.
In F. And that product is set to retire in exchange for the new Flagship Business seats.
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