Originally Posted by
Repooc17
Seems like United is discouraging same day quick turn (domestic) with its fare mapping.
Just doing some "research" of random routes - e.g. EWR<->LAX. Same day return within 4 hours after outbound scheduled arrival, with travel date 2 months from today (to minimize any AP issues) - totally available G or K inventory on both ends would auto remap to W, and fare would more than double.
The fix.would be to extend more than 4 hours between flights, or book two one-ways.
Very interesting...don't remember seeing this previously.
Huh. Very hard to tell if deliberate or not since the wording of the combinations sections is so muddled on a normal day:
Code:
DOUBLE OPEN JAWS NOT PERMITTED.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED.
END-ON-END NOTE -
TO AVOID CUSTOMER CONFUSION UA BASIC ONE WAY
FARES MAY ONLY BE DISPLAYED/SOLD AS A ROUNDTRIP
ITINERARY WITH UA DOMESTIC BASIC ECONOMY FARES.
PRESENTING/SELLING UA BASIC AND OTHER AIRLINE
FARES AS A ROUNDTRIP ITINERARY ON ONE PASSENGER
RECORD OR SEPARATE PASSENGER RECORDS/TICKETS IS
NOT PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY ECONOMY OW UNBUNDLED/
ECONOMY RT UNBUNDLED-TYPE FARES FOR CARRIER UA IN
RULE BAV2 IN TARIFF
DFR - WITHIN THE UNITED STATES.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED. STOPOVER
REQUIRED AT FARE BREAK POINT.
END-ON-END NOTE -
TO AVOID CUSTOMER CONFUSION UA BASIC ONE WAY
FARES MAY ONLY BE DISPLAYED/SOLD AS A ROUNDTRIP
ITINERARY WITH UA DOMESTIC BASIC ECONOMY FARES.
PRESENTING/SELLING UA BASIC AND OTHER AIRLINE
FARES AS A ROUNDTRIP ITINERARY ON ONE PASSENGER
RECORD OR SEPARATE PASSENGER RECORDS/TICKETS IS
NOT PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY ECONOMY OW UNBUNDLED/
ECONOMY RT UNBUNDLED-TYPE FARES FOR CARRIER UA IN
ANY RULE IN TARIFF
DFR - WITHIN THE UNITED STATES
FBRNAPV - WITHIN NORTH AMERICA
IPRW - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 1
VPDR - BETWEEN PUERTO RICO/VIRGIN ISLANDS-THE
USA.
OPEN JAWS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS
A MAXIMUM OF 2 FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED. NO
STOPOVERS PERMITTED AT FARE BREAK POINTS. MILEAGE OF
THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN MILEAGE OF
THE SHORTEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT.
OPEN JAWS NOTE -
TO AVOID CUSTOMER CONFUSION UA BASIC ONE WAY
FARES MAY ONLY BE DISPLAYED/SOLD AS A ROUNDTRIP
ITINERARY WITH UA DOMESTIC BASIC ECONOMY FARES.
PRESENTING/SELLING UA BASIC AND OTHER AIRLINE
FARES AS A ROUNDTRIP ITINERARY ON ONE PASSENGER
RECORD OR SEPARATE PASSENGER RECORDS/TICKETS IS
NOT PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
WHEN THE OPEN SEGMENT OCCURS
-WITHIN AREA 1
-THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST NOT BE BETWEEN UNITED
STATES AND CANADA
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY ECONOMY OW UNBUNDLED/
ECONOMY RT UNBUNDLED-TYPE FARES FOR CARRIER UA IN
ANY RULE IN TARIFF
DFR - WITHIN THE UNITED STATES
FBRNAPV - WITHIN NORTH AMERICA
IPRW - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 1
VPDR - BETWEEN PUERTO RICO/VIRGIN ISLANDS-THE
USA.
2-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
/2-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS.
2-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS NOTE -
TO AVOID CUSTOMER CONFUSION UA BASIC ONE WAY
FARES MAY ONLY BE DISPLAYED/SOLD AS A ROUNDTRIP
ITINERARY WITH UA DOMESTIC BASIC ECONOMY FARES.
PRESENTING/SELLING UA BASIC AND OTHER AIRLINE
FARES AS A ROUNDTRIP ITINERARY ON ONE PASSENGER
RECORD OR SEPARATE PASSENGER RECORDS/TICKETS IS
NOT PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY ECONOMY OW UNBUNDLED/
ECONOMY RT UNBUNDLED-TYPE FARES FOR CARRIER UA IN
ANY RULE IN TARIFF
DFR - WITHIN THE UNITED STATES
FBRNAPV - WITHIN NORTH AMERICA
IPRW - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 1
VPDR - BETWEEN PUERTO RICO/VIRGIN ISLANDS-THE
USA.
MULTI-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
/MULTI-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS.
MULTI-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS NOTE -
TO AVOID CUSTOMER CONFUSION UA BASIC ONE WAY
FARES MAY ONLY BE DISPLAYED/SOLD AS A ROUNDTRIP
ITINERARY WITH UA DOMESTIC BASIC ECONOMY FARES.
PRESENTING/SELLING UA BASIC AND OTHER AIRLINE
FARES AS A ROUNDTRIP ITINERARY ON ONE PASSENGER
RECORD OR SEPARATE PASSENGER RECORDS/TICKETS IS
NOT PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY ECONOMY OW UNBUNDLED/
ECONOMY RT UNBUNDLED-TYPE FARES FOR CARRIER UA IN
RULE BAV2 IN TARIFF
DFR - WITHIN THE UNITED STATES.
MULTI-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM MULTI-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS STOPOVER
REQUIRED AT FARE BREAK POINT.
MULTI-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS NOTE -
TO AVOID CUSTOMER CONFUSION UA BASIC ONE WAY
FARES MAY ONLY BE DISPLAYED/SOLD AS A ROUNDTRIP
ITINERARY WITH UA DOMESTIC BASIC ECONOMY FARES.
PRESENTING/SELLING UA BASIC AND OTHER AIRLINE
FARES AS A ROUNDTRIP ITINERARY ON ONE PASSENGER
RECORD OR SEPARATE PASSENGER RECORDS/TICKETS IS
NOT PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY ECONOMY OW UNBUNDLED/
ECONOMY RT UNBUNDLED-TYPE FARES FOR CARRIER UA IN
ANY RULE IN TARIFF
DFR - WITHIN THE UNITED STATES
FBRNAPV - WITHIN NORTH AMERICA
IPRW - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 1
VPDR - BETWEEN PUERTO RICO/VIRGIN ISLANDS-THE
USA.
NOTE - THE CITY PAIRS BELOW ARE CONSIDERED THE SAME
POINT -
BUR-LAX BUR-ONT BUR-SNA BWI-WAS EFD-HOU
EFD-IAH EWR-HPN EWR-HVN EWR-ISP EWR-NYC
FLL-MIA FLL-PBI HVN-HPN HVN-ISP HVN-NYC
IAD-DCA ISP-HPN ISP-NYC LAX-ONT LAX-SNA
LGA-JFK MDW-ORD MIA-PBI NYC-HPN OAK-SFO
OAK-SJC ONT-SNA SFO-SJC