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Old May 8, 2023, 10:38 am
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RealHJ
 
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Originally Posted by FireEmblemPride
The question is what DL would want to do with these two slots. (...) A second HNL?
That would be nice. But DL hasn't ever operated even the first HNL flight out of HND*. For years it's been an ongoing pattern tickets sold then always flights canned a few months out.

DL used to have 5x daily HNL-NRT. 2-3x 747, rest on A330s. 2x daily KIX (747 and A330). Daily NGO. Daily FUK. All those flights are now gone, every single one. DL is doing really poorly and has shrunk to a practically inconsequential size. From what I've heard on the ground, it's been largely due to DL's horribly inept marketing and sales leadership when the former NW management with deep industry connections and knowledge left and DL brought in some nobodies (penny-pinching as always). That is from before the pandemic. Japan has been slow to recover, but now things are more or less back to normal. Except DL flights that is. Well, DL and Air Asia X, who also keeps pushing back their HNL-KIX flight and has pulled a Delta on it of selling tickets then cancelling a few months out as well over the last year+ a few times.

*HND is a horrible airport anyway and doesn't work for non-domestic Japanese connections, as most int'l connecting flights, esp. SkyTeam like KE, CI, etc., arrive only into NRT. HNL-HND arrival is too late to make it to NRT for same day connections. And coming in to NRT requires a 2 our ground transit to HND for connection. Really poor choice to move to inconvenient HND out of NRT...but that's a separate issue. If there was still service out KIX, NGO, FUK, those would be equally good to NRT, if not better, as connecting options, but all that is now gone also.
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