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Old Feb 5, 2023 | 11:21 am
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Originally Posted by hippogriff23
This is very informative, thanks for putting it together. I believe we have also watched some of your videos on YouTube.

I was wondering whether you have any thoughts about Zaborin. Is it actually good?

We are hoping to spend a couple of nights in a ryokan with in-room Onsen located in a very snowy place, but not too isolated (like close to a town we can drop by and walk around). In addition to Zaborin, we were also looking at Wabizakura (that you rated highly) and Bettei Senjyuan.
If it's January or February, a large part of Japan - especially in the North, West and in the Mountains - will be covered in snow. For a guarantee of snow, I'd suggest Tohoku, Hokkaido, Nagano, Niigata and the Hokuriku region (among others.) Tohoku is very picturesque during this time. However, many of the top ryokans are quite isolated (not within walking distance to any sort of town), and even if there was a town, it's not the type that you'll find in places like Kinosaki Onsen. One of the exceptions is Ginzan Onsen, although I'm not aware of any property that is truly high end there, unless you're fine in a more traditional, rustic ryokan such as Fujiya (which was redesigned by Kengo Kuma.)

For views of snow-capped mountains, but not necessarily being in the snow (no guarantee of it, anyway), then places like Lake Suwa (Sui Suwako) and the Fuji Five Lakes area (such as Fufu Kawaguchiko, with superb views of Mt. Fuji on a clear day) come into play.

We were planning on visiting Zaborin in 2020, but decided against it at the last minute over concerns about a drop in the service level there according to many Japanese reviewers. They supposedly had high staff turnover during the pandemic. Zaborin has never been celebrated for its service (i.e. check-in at the lobby counter, not even while seated in a lounge area, nobody accompany you to your room to explain the in-room functions, etc), which is strange, given that it's already been over 7 years since it began operating. Still, the hardware is fantastic and is in a beautiful location.

We're planning to stay at Senjyuan for the first time this November, as a combination trip with Kusatsu Onsen Kei and Fuefukigawa Onsen Zabou (the latter is not well known since it's in a remote part of Yamanashi, but the "special" room at the latter looks incredible, as does the Onsen.)

Originally Posted by luckypeach
Hi all, will be in Kurokawa Onsen in May this year and looking for people's experiences at Ryokans other than Gosho Gekkoju and Takefue.

Also if people have some must see recos for Kyushu would love to hear those as well.
After Takefue and Gosho Gekkoju, there's a steep drop-off as far as luxury properties (for the purposes of this forum) are concerned. There are some really charming and rustic ryokans throughout the area. The only other ryokan we've tried (back in 2016) was Yamamizuki Bettei Miyama Sanso, and I'd recommend it. Most structures in the Kurokawa Onsen area are made of wood, meaning that sound insulation can be lacking. This is also the case for the renowned Yamamizuki. However, its sister property (Miyama Sanso) has detached, villa-style accommodations, so you're assured of peace and quiet. It's quirky, and you really should get the "C type" room with an indoor and outdoor Onsen if you can.

As for Kyushu, there's so much to see and do, that I'll simply refer you to one of the best resources out there:
Japan-guide.com

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