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Old Jul 28, 2003 | 7:00 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by B Watson:
Careful - you really will hurt yourself if you fall off that high horse of yours</font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by chapeau:
I think you have a misunderstanding of the term 'high horse'. High horse means stubborn arrogance or contempt. I am for being treated like everybody else, and actually dislike the subservience shown by the SQ employee</font>
The term "high horse" can refer to smug superiority and a resulting readiness to demean others [Big OED seems to agree].

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by chapeau:
Anyway, I think you underestimate the pervasive power of American culture delivered by satellite TV. I am sure this will cause Asian society to change significantly in my lifetime, but I suspect I am less of an old person than you are, so you might be correct in your own lifetime.</font>
America occupied Japan for a not too short period in the late fourties. Hundreds of thousands of young Western men spent a lot of time ifighting the Korean war in the 50s. I think you'll find neither nation is subservient to US culture (or even deeply ingrained in it); and they don't look like they will be in the near or medium term future.


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by chapeau:
I much prefer being treated like an equal, sort of like what BA employees do when they get treated with the same respect by their customers</font>
I quite like being called "Mate" at my local Starbucks, where my order begins being made as soon as I open the front door. I would be agahst if after paying £7000 for a ticket I was called "Mate" by a cabin crew member in first (This has happened to a flyertalker - the exalted Merry himself); it's a very different relationship (And yes, I'm extremely curteous). The same applies for an expensive dinner - I don't want the sommelier asking "Is the plonk alright gov'ner?" - I, for one, would feel embarrased.


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by chapeau:
As PPS depends heavily on the subservient nature of Asians, I do not think it will be matched by a European airline.</font>
I find this deeply offensive. I would hope you see fit to retract this comment and apolgise for it.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by chapeau:
Racism?? Wow, the insults are flying thick and fast. That's a word you should DEFINITELY understand before you use it.</font>
I'll admit I don't know much about these "word" thingies; but I was always told to disagree politely. I am reliably informed by my intellectual superiors (I am in no doubt you are amongst their rank) that condescension is not an adequate replacement for logic.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by chapeau:
kappa, equality doesn't exist, it never will, but it's something to strive for.</font>
I believe a man called Sisyphus coined this branch of logic. [As an aside: might I suggest OMNI as a better place to discuss one's politics?]

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by chapeau:
Western airlines are requiring CRM techniques to be used between flight deck and cabin crew, and cabin crew and cabin crew. This is also a 'good thing', and these techniques will come to other areas of the world too.</font>
Am I right in thinking 'Cockpit Resource Management' as a wider theory means letting underlings over-rule superiors when they think it best?

In that case what is the point in designating one as "Superior"? I am sure you think this is exactly point (i.e. to remove hierarchies).

A cockpit requires a hierarchy at times; I think you'll find one of the major problems in the cockpits of Asian carriers is an ill-defined hierarchy, at KE at least; as I recall, three people had thier hands on the throttle at take-off (or so the Delta auditors report of KE's cockpit performance report). I presonally think there are many, many hierarchies in all walks of life which are very important indeed; that is only my personal opinion though, and I'm sure others will disagree with me on this point.

Regards,
Alex

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