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Old Oct 25, 2022 | 8:52 pm
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Originally Posted by The Lev
Except that "Flex" fares are a bit of a misnomer. if you look at the OP's first post you will note the red "x" under the Flex column for the "Refundable?" question. To stereotype slightly, Flex is basically what people using other people's money buy to earn 100% status miles and hope for an e-upgrade.

AC's pricing seems to gyrate depending on how the pricing gods feel - pre-Covid, they would basically assign a floor price to Flex but drop the lower fares to whatever suited the competitive nature of the market. For the last few years they have tried to keep a certain gap between Basic, Standard, Flex and Comfort, so that as the low fares groups went down, so did the higher ones, which is also how it worked long ago. It looks like at least on this route at this time they are trying to bring back "pricing discipline" (i.e. relatively high prices) for people who want frequent flyer perqs. Hopefully Mr. Market says a firm "No!" to this trial balloon.
Flex fares are definitely more flexible than they were before - there are no more change fees on North American fares. Standard still retains a $100 change fee per direction. Flex also has a lower same-day change fee.

To answer the OPs question - AC still maintains differential pricing between brands. However they have also introduced some deeply discounted G, K and L fares in Standard brand only valid until 27 Oct. Otherwise there is still a 60-70 difference from TG to FL and a 60-70 difference from FL to CO



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YTO-YVR CXR-AC MON 23JAN23 CAD
AC-ACK/TG - STANDARD
AC YTOYVR 23JAN23
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
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R31MR
3 KZ4NZCTG K X 184.00 E10JA T27OC 14/1 -/ - 11
R31MR
4A TW4LUCTG T X 234.00 E10JA T27OC 14/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
5 LZ7NZCTG L X 244.00 E10JA T27OC 7/1 -/ - 11
R31MR
6A TW4LZCTG T X 244.00 E10JA T27OC 14/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
7 TZ6LUCTG T X 286.00 ---- 30/1 -/ - 100
8 TZ6LZCTG T X 296.00 ---- 30/1 -/ - 100
9 WW6LUCTG W X 296.00 E09JA T28OC 30/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
10 SZ2LUCTG S X 305.00 ---- 21/1 -/ - 100
11 WW6LZCTG W X 306.00 E09JA T28OC 30/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
12 SZ2LZCTG S X 315.00 ---- 21/1 -/ - 100
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R15FE
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R15FE
15 WZ8LUCTG W X 350.00 ---- 18/1 -/ - 100
16 WZ8LZCTG W X 360.00 ---- 18/1 -/ - 100
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R15FE
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R15FE
19 VZ4LUCTG V X 395.00 ---- 14/1 -/ - 100
20 VZ4LZCTG V X 405.00 ---- 14/1 -/ - 100
21 QW4LUCTG Q X 436.00 E09JA T28OC 14/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
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R15FE
23 QZDLUCTG Q X 460.00 ---- 10/1 -/ - 100
24 QZDLZCTG Q X 470.00 ---- 10/1 -/ - 100
25 HWDLUCTG H X 499.00 E09JA T28OC 10/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
26 HWDLZCTG H X 509.00 E09JA T28OC 10/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
27 HZ7LUCTG H X 535.00 ---- 7/1 -/ - 100
28 UW7LUCTG U X 541.00 E09JA T28OC 7/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
29 HZ7LZCTG H X 545.00 ---- 7/1 -/ - 100
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R15FE
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R15FE
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R15FE
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R15FE
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38 MW1LZCTG M X 691.00 E09JA T28OC 1/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
39 MZ0LUCTG M X 720.00 ---- -/¥ -/ - 100
40 MZ0LZCTG M X 730.00 ---- -/¥ -/ - 100

AC-ACK/FL - FLEX
AC YTOYVR 23JAN23
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
41A TW4LUCFL T X 294.00 E10JA T27OC 14/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
42A TW4LZCFL T X 304.00 E10JA T27OC 14/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
43 TZ6LUCFL T X 346.00 ---- 30/1 -/ - 100
44 TZ6LZCFL T X 356.00 ---- 30/1 -/ - 100
45 SZ2LUCFL S X 365.00 ---- 21/1 -/ - 100
46 WW6LUCFL W X 366.00 E09JA T28OC 30/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
47 SZ2LZCFL S X 375.00 ---- 21/1 -/ - 100
48 WW6LZCFL W X 376.00 E09JA T28OC 30/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
49 WW2LUCFL W X 388.00 E09JA T28OC 21/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
50 WW2LZCFL W X 398.00 E09JA T28OC 21/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
51 WZ8LUCFL W X 420.00 ---- 18/1 -/ - 100
52 WZ8LZCFL W X 430.00 ---- 18/1 -/ - 100
53 VW8LUCFL V X 452.00 E09JA T28OC 18/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
54 QW8LZCFL Q X 462.00 E09JA T28OC 18/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
55 VZ4LUCFL V X 465.00 ---- 14/1 -/ - 100
56 VZ4LZCFL V X 475.00 ---- 14/1 -/ - 100
57 QW4LUCFL Q X 506.00 E09JA T28OC 14/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
58 QW4LZCFL Q X 516.00 E09JA T28OC 14/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
59 QZDLUCFL Q X 530.00 ---- 10/1 -/ - 100
60 QZDLZCFL Q X 540.00 ---- 10/1 -/ - 100
61 HWDLUCFL H X 569.00 E09JA T28OC 10/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
62 HWDLZCFL H X 579.00 E09JA T28OC 10/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
63 HZ7LUCFL H X 605.00 ---- 7/1 -/ - 100
64 UW7LUCFL U X 611.00 E09JA T28OC 7/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
65 HZ7LZCFL H X 615.00 ---- 7/1 -/ - 100
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R15FE
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R15FE
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R15FE
69 UZ5LUCFL U X 715.00 ---- 5/1 -/ - 100
70 UZ5LZCFL U X 725.00 ---- 5/1 -/ - 100
71 MZ1LUCFL M X 750.00 ---- 1/1 -/ - 100
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R15FE
73 MZ1LZCFL M X 760.00 ---- 1/1 -/ - 100
74 MW1LZCFL M X 761.00 E09JA T28OC 1/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
75 MZ0LUCFL M X 790.00 ---- -/¥ -/ - 100
76 MZ0LZCFL M X 800.00 ---- -/¥ -/ - 100

AC-ACK/CO - COMFORT
AC YTOYVR 23JAN23
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
77A TW4LUCCO T X 364.00 E10JA T27OC 14/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
78A TW4LZCCO T X 374.00 E10JA T27OC 14/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
79 TZ6LUCCO T X 416.00 ---- 30/1 -/ - 100
80 TZ6LZCCO T X 426.00 ---- 30/1 -/ - 100
81 SZ2LUCCO S X 435.00 ---- 21/1 -/ - 100
82 SZ2LZCCO S X 445.00 ---- 21/1 -/ - 100
83 WW6LUCCO W X 446.00 E09JA T28OC 30/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
84 WW6LZCCO W X 456.00 E09JA T28OC 30/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
85 WW2LUCCO W X 468.00 E09JA T28OC 21/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
86 WW2LZCCO W X 478.00 E09JA T28OC 21/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
87 WZ8LUCCO W X 500.00 ---- 18/1 -/ - 100
88 WZ8LZCCO W X 510.00 ---- 18/1 -/ - 100
89 VW8LUCCO V X 532.00 E09JA T28OC 18/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
90 QW8LZCCO Q X 542.00 E09JA T28OC 18/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
91 VZ4LUCCO V X 545.00 ---- 14/1 -/ - 100
92 VZ4LZCCO V X 555.00 ---- 14/1 -/ - 100
93 QW4LUCCO Q X 586.00 E09JA T28OC 14/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
94 QW4LZCCO Q X 596.00 E09JA T28OC 14/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
95 QZDLUCCO Q X 610.00 ---- 10/1 -/ - 100
96 QZDLZCCO Q X 620.00 ---- 10/1 -/ - 100
97 HWDLUCCO H X 649.00 E09JA T28OC 10/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
98 HWDLZCCO H X 659.00 E09JA T28OC 10/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
99 HZ7LUCCO H X 685.00 ---- 7/1 -/ - 100
100 UW7LUCCO U X 691.00 E09JA T28OC 7/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
101 HZ7LZCCO H X 695.00 ---- 7/1 -/ - 100
102 UW7LZCCO U X 701.00 E09JA T28OC 7/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
103 UW5LUCCO U X 773.00 E09JA T28OC 5/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
104 UW5LZCCO U X 783.00 E09JA T28OC 5/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
105 UZ5LUCCO U X 795.00 ---- 5/1 -/ - 100
106 UZ5LZCCO U X 805.00 ---- 5/1 -/ - 100
107 MZ1LUCCO M X 830.00 ---- 1/1 -/ - 100
108 MW1LUCCO M X 831.00 E09JA T28OC 1/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
109 MZ1LZCCO M X 840.00 ---- 1/1 -/ - 100
110 MW1LZCCO M X 841.00 E09JA T28OC 1/1 -/ - 100
R15FE
111 MZ0LUCCO M X 870.00 ---- -/¥ -/ - 100
112 MZ0LZCCO M X 880.00 ---- -/¥ -/ - 100
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