Originally Posted by
orbitmic
of course, the qf, cx, and jl lounges you mention are the lounges those airlines use for their f pax which the Ba f lounge is not, very similarly to the qr f lounge aa opposed to al safwa.
I sort of addressed this in my other response, but honestly, I think the "CCR is the true F Lounge" is a bit of a cop out. And how does that explain the T3 GF then, where there is no CCR? Do you believe that F lounge compares favorably to other OW F Lounges? (admittedly, my experience w/T3 GF is limited as I have not been in that lounge for a long time, but I don't get the sense people regard it that favorably, even compared to other business class lounges in T3)
Originally Posted by
orbitmic
That said, I love most qf lounges, really like many cx lounges, but find jl f lounges distinctedly underwhelming and aren’t sure what makes them better than Ba’s GF? Food is mediocre (and since you mentioned a la carte dining, that’s typically something they do not provide), they can also be packed at the wrong times (just like gf can be largely empty at the right times) and I would really never get out of my way to spend time there, and I say that as someone who absolutely loves jl (I’d say it’s my favourite ow airline without hesitation) and would in fact go out of my way to fly them.
Fair enough. It's been sometime since I've been in a JAL F Lounge, but personally I haven't experienced significant crowding (though we strive to travel as off-peak as possible) in one. And you make a fair point about the food in the JAL F Lounge, that said, I've usually found the ambiance (e.g. crowding) to be better, but that is just my personal experience, and that at least helps. The T5 GF is in no way, whatsoever, relaxing, ever. As another poster mentioned, it feels like waiting at a Tube station...
Originally Posted by
orbitmic
food in gf is definitely a lot better than in GC where it has been downgraded, as for the suggestion upthread (not in your post) that gf feels decrepit in either lhr or jfk, I genuinely do not recognise that.
I'll take your word for that, but if true, that is both sad and scary. Do you think that "Galleries First food and beverage is less worse than the Galleries Club" is the right mark to strive for?
And again, what you seem to be neglecting is that even things like the AA Flagship Lounges (and I don't mean Flagship First Dining) are often a better experience than the T5 GF lounge. How can that be? As mentioned, we recently used the MIA FL and it was far, far less crowded than GF, it had better wine (at least to my palate) on offer, better spirits, and though it is buffet, not a la carte, the food seemed much better, with a broader selection, than what I experienced on the T5 GF buffet the very next day. And again, the MIA FL, is a business class lounge, available to all OWS and non-status business class passengers. How do you explain/defend that?
Regards