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Old Oct 11, 2022 | 2:45 pm
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Originally Posted by Dyce
Originally Posted by jsloan
Originally Posted by Dyce
Virtually all my recent flights there have been (based on seat selection availability) greater than 10 open seats 48 hours(ish) before departure...
The seat map is meaningless.
Was talking international versus domestic. Disagree on seat map being meaningless for indicating how many seats sold up front. Agree, it's meaningless for the back, but up front it's a decent barometer....
Recent observations support "meaningless seatmaps" or at least new behavior , been tracking a number of TATL routes and have regularly seen 10 open seats but J3 (just random numbers), but the available seats for sell well below the open seats. Watch the upgrade lists in the last week and only a few actual upgraders (and not blocked for PremPlus oversells.

It may be the "new" premium cabin passengers have introduced a new behavior? Get a Polaris upgrade waitlist snap shot of your flight a week out and empty seats and compare to departure.

Recent FRA-SFO flight -- late Sept, 773, 1st column is front polaris section open seats, 2nd is back section Polaris open seat and 3rd is PP open seat, 4th is inventory. In the last week the upgrade list did not change till the gate and 2 cleared in Polaris (2 no shows?) ... each line is a day -- 3 week span. Every other day initial then switched to daily


Why this happening I don't know and is contrary to what I had expected but repeated on 3 SFO-FRA/MUC/ZRH flights that did the same pattern plus two additional ZUR/MUC-SFO -- total of 6 flights in a 4 week span.

Inventory decrease and seatmap count unchanged and in one case increases

Any explanations?

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