Originally Posted by
nomadabroad
haha 3 meals for everyone? Dream on, with the current cost cutting it’s not a matter of whether the galley fits but more if they are willing to spend the £ on proper decent catering on Long haul Y or not. Most you’ll get is one hot meal and maybe if you are lucky a second lousy hot snack.
With the current poor service levels and enhanced cost cutting no way on earth I’m taking any 12+ hour flights with el cheapo BA
Even JL is like this at the moment on the HND-LHR route in Y. Some 15 hours across two oceans and all you get is one meal (JL41) or one meal and a hot snack (JL43). At least the food ex HND is the fairly tasty RED menu.
Originally Posted by
Caerbannog
Does anyone want to hazard a guess as to whether Osaka will be reinstated within the next year? It's more convenient for Kyoto and while the connection HND-ITM on JAL would be OK (and seems to add minimal cost), we have a 241 to deploy so it has to be BA metal; pre-covid there was good redemption availability to KIX.
As someone who commutes between Kyoto and London, it would be nice to have more OW options again. At the moment CX has a nice proposition out of KIX with a 3.5 hr layover in each direction. But otherwise the only reasonable option is to go ITM-HND to catch the JL41. Most anything else requires a painfully early flight from ITM or a HND-NRT transfer. That said, I really wonder whether BA and AY will come back to KIX anytime soon with the war on.
If you need to fly BA metal, I'd just jump on the Keikyu line after arriving at HND and connect to the Shinkansen. Even with a large suitcase it's fairly pain-free. The ticket machine allows you to specify that you have large luggage and will reserve appropriate seats. On the way back, you'll just have to plan to spend your last night in Tokyo, or at least at ITM or KIX. Little chance of catching the BA flight from Kyoto.