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Old Aug 29, 2022 | 4:56 am
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Originally Posted by storewanderer
It is all optics. You are correct about the bags also. I am not even sure moving to the larger containers will cost them less (I will use more product, I will no longer ration).

We looked at this previously years ago on a different thread and tried to analyze how much plastic waste was in a single 16 ounce shampoo and how much plastic waste was in 16 1 ounce shampoos and there was some percentage less plastic in the 16 ounce shampoo (but then the issue about the spout not being recyclable came up). But if people use more product, then they'll be using more containers anyway (since these are NOT refillable). Refilling them would be so inefficient for housekeeping that any cost savings would be gone. Plus if they refilled them, what would they refill them from? Gallon sized plastic containers?

The only reason chains are switching to these larger containers are due to regulations certain governments are passing that ban the use of the single use containers. If the regulation only bans single use plastic, there are other materials they can use instead (like foil) which ironically are not recyclable and more difficult to use.

If this was good for costs it would have been done 20+ years ago.
There are significant cost savings moving from minis to the larger format containers. The main reason hotels haven't done this already is concerns about guest reaction.

Originally Posted by Ghoulish
Staff tampering is not the concern.

Other guests will not be able to tamper with daily replaced miniatures.

Meanwhile, one will have to presume every single one of the hundreds of previous guests having access to the refillables didn't suffer from a mental illness, sexual fetish, or pure malice satiated by "becoming intimate" with future users of the product.

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​​​​​​If a hotel chooses refillables, I would hope either the dispensers or containers will be tamper proof or at least tamper evident.
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