Well the flight is for my parents, not me. I'm just trying to help them get there cheaply in J, as that's what they want. And I really don't want to see them get screwed over like that. Now how many here would take 2800 dollars for 85K AP miles, or 5600 dollars for 170K AP miles, this is only directed at SE's, as they'd have to use instant KK. I'm not asking anyone here to buy me 2 tickets using their miles, but out of curiosity, who would do that?