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Old Apr 9, 2022 | 6:49 pm
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Originally Posted by Dr Jabadski
I’ll add just a little bit to the wise counsel of our esteemed members above (mia, beltway, RNE).

- For high “velocity” (approaching churning) applications think very carefully about getting to 5/24. Once at 5/24 Chase will not approve ANY other cards, biz or personal, so if a once in a lifetime offer comes along you would not be able to jump on it. You obviously understand the concept. FWIW, I’ve was at LOL/24 for many years, (intentionally) got down to 1/24 a couple of years ago (sorry to write that COVID actually helped in that regard), approved for 10 Chase cards in the past 20 months only 3 of which are personal and I plan to stay at or below 4/24 until Chase changes the policy or an incredible unbelievable amazing once in a lifetime offer comes along.

- I’ve also thought about the (new) IHG biz and Hyatt biz cards as they do not add to 5/24, pulled the trigger on both when they were relatively new products. There are anecdotal reports that for a brand new credit card product Chase, notwithstanding anything written above by myself and others, is more liberal with approvals perhaps even including “waiving” 5/24. I certainly wouldn’t hang my hat on that but it’s something a high velocity potential applicant should be aware of.

- My theory (HT Anne Elk) is that with (relatively) new Chase Hyatt and IHG BIZ cards, it’s possible (if below 5/24) to “churn” a SUB once every 12 months with applications for the “same” card being once every 24.5 months, (hopefully for all of us) it’s a marathon, not a sprint .

- If you want to remain in Chase's good graces, no (zero, nada, zilch) MS (which is sometimes tempting to meet minimum spends). FWIW, I suck it up and pay the Fing 1.96% (federal), 2.25% (state) or 2.35% (local) juice* on estimated tax or tax due payments to help meet minimum spends.

Good luck .

(* “juice” in the fee/gambling vigorish connotation. 4% to 7.9% to “buy” the 4 or the 10 at craps table is usury .)
In addition, US residents should consider the impact on your taxes... yes, taxes...

Chase is reporting redemptions to the IRS and sending MISC1099 forms to US residents, when value exceeds 600 USD... once they report it, there is nothing anyone can do but to pay the tax.. .BUT here is the issue:

When someone is allotted a sign on bonus - i.e. they didn't do ANYTHING to get the points - CPAs view that the value of this is taxable..
BUT
When one charges the credit card, accumulates the points and THEN redeems the points, IRS considers that 'rebate' and not income earned, and is not taxable.

Chase does NOT make any distinction it appears between the bonus points (NOT Earned) and the regular points (EARNED) through card activity. Chase says "Talk to IRS"... IRS says "we don't know about your points program and whether or not this was a "bonus", so talk to Chase"....
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