Originally Posted by
ijgordon
Yes, but probably not at the yields that profitably support lie-flat seats. Even on longer-haul HI routes, they can probably only get $2.5-3k r/t for say NYC-HNL which is ~5k miles, vs. often $5-10k r/t OPM business fares on NYC-Europe at 3.5k miles. Which one do you think is more profitable? This is likely one reason premium cabin service standards are typically lower on HI routes vs. Europe. (Even if catering costs are only a small fraction of the fare.)
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1) DL is asking for $5k round trip on Delta One JFK to HNL, I think they may be able to get some takers. Maybe they go to $4K
2) I understand last minute J to Europe at 10K is more profitable - the opportunity is to upguage low yield leisure to high yield leisure by adding additional premium capacity across the system, not to sub out Hawaiian J for European J