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Old Feb 17, 2022 | 1:38 am
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Originally Posted by orbitmic
To be honest, it’s not a very frequent occurrence that the Club cabin (the one which witnesses and heard reactions would presumably come from) is dominated by cockney accents so I’m not sure this is the setting where an “anti posh” bias would be most likely. And you are absolutely right that independent witnesses do not create a certainty, but ultimately, on a likely scale of bias, wouldn’t you say that a protagonist’s own version (the other account that we have) rates even higher?

For better or worse, at this stage, the downgrade is a bit of a red herring. The key complaint by the passenger is that he and his family were wrongfully kicked out of the plane (ie his attitude did not justify it), and ba’s view seems to be that his attitude was disruptive and thus justified disembarking the passengers. So the passenger’s “attitude” (words, behaviour, timing of reactions etc) is the key point of disagreement, and short of a full recording, independent witnesses’ accounts is going to be the main reference point. In my experience, it is also not the case that passengers always take the airline’s side. They do sometimes, but others, they are in fact very prompt to blame the airline and crew for delays they experience even when those are precisely not caused by the airline itself.


The ANO, empowers the aircraft Captain to offload passengers, or in the most violent cases to even have a passenger physically restrained, if, from the information they have at the time, they form the opinion that their actions are in order to maintain the safety of the flight.

Note, that opinion does not have to be right as more facts emerge, merely that at the time the decision was made they believed this was the safest course of action.

Verbal abuse, ie swearing at the crew and or disobeying crew instructions constitutes acts which fall within the ICAO passenger threat level 1 category. This alone would provide ample cause for the passenger to be offloaded, particularly as the flight had not got airborne.

Again I emphasize I am talking hypothetically and make no judgment about this incident
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