Originally Posted by
kb1992
Thanks for the replies. This is very useful.
Given that J is wide open on UA 857, Dec. 24, shall we expect that all waitlisted pax would eventually clear the upgrades?
I noticed that UA never releases any upgrade inventory, PZ or PN on UA 857/858. Everything goes to the gate.
This is very annoying. Maybe it's just the China flights.
Maybe they save few pennies for lounges since you can't go to the lounge before you have a J BP.
Is it possible that the system won't clear the upgrades at the gate and leave the plane off with empty J seats?
The wiki at the top of each page in this thread, albeit brief, sheds some light on the reasons and the outcomes. And whomever posted this is spot on: "Generally, this is good news for those on the upgrade list and a possible chance of Op-ups for some." Indeed, based on the flight metrics at the moment, everyone on the UG list will clear. If Y was full (from a physical capacity standpoint), they would them op-up some folks to J. Not the case here, because of capacity limits. Thanks
runner450 for clarifying that it's 75% now (I knew it was a certain percent, but didn't say as I didn't know, and news articles were mixed on the current capacity % of any given aircraft).
As for holding back upgrades; It's always been a 'thing' but especially on flights with such limited capacity--I think China is among the most tightly restricted in the world right now. They should/could probably clear a dozen or two for the 12/24 flight, but that's not their thing right now--probably 8 or 4 hours before departure, and perhaps just at the gate. Maybe it's been demonstrated that X amount of people, on average by J class tix a day or two before. I don't know specifically why, but look for this to continue especially to China--mostly because of the very limited capacity to China, not just on UA but across all airlines (I believe the current 75% capacity limit even applies to China-flagged carriers). However, I doubt this is a scenario where they don't clear people in advance to keep them out of lounges--but I wouldn't put past them the more I think about it.
As for your final question, with almost certainty, they will clear everyone before departure. Not to scare you, but with UA, anything can happen!