Thanks but I've been encouraging those clients to upgrade by telling them that it's going to cost an exorbitant amount for them to restore these systems when they fail. We're already at a point where restoring the support systems is already way beyond the value of these machines. These are ancient sorting and counting machines that are used one or twice a month. Replacing them with more efficient and and recent systems is a better idea for them (and these clients will likely run the new systems into the ground as well). The threat of not being able to restore the systems is good encouragement.