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Old Nov 2, 2004 | 10:41 am
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eyecue
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
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title 49

Originally Posted by studentff
Nobody should get a civil penalty for expressing their feelings of discomfort at someone touching their body. There's no indication she hit/touched the screener. Why should she be penalized?
She attempted to influence a screener by throwing out the information. Here is the quote from her own mouth:As a lawyer, Ms. Gaynier specializes in real estate and landlord-tenant litigation, not criminal law. "But I thought, well, I'll throw these legal terms out and see if I can back him down," she said.



Your tone implies to me that you are comfortable with using civil penalties to intimidate passengers into silence. I hope that is not the case.
no that is not the case, I was just pointing out that she could have bitten off more than she could chew.




She would not have been "breast-examined" the next day unless she was SSSSd (probable retaliation for being denied travel the day before), or secondaried by the checkpoint (almost certain retaliation for being denied travel the day before, because she clearly was clueful enough no to alarm the WTMD, hence her first encounter).
You dont know that to be factual. If she bought the ticket the same day and a host of other factors that come into play AT THE TICKET COUNTER where TSA has no influence from the day before. There is no revenge motive here.



My speculation is supported by your statement that there "still had to be a method of carrying on the explosives." Anal/vaginal cavities are such a method. Therefore I speculate that the TSA might someday be interested in probing these cavities.
I dont know if we will ever get all the information from USSR about what exactly happened but it stands to reason that they interviewed people who witnessed the boarding and came to the conclusion (in Russia) that it was carried on the body not in it.





There was a thread here the other day on a woman that was forced to strip down to her undergarmets by TSA because she was wearing a zippered-sweatshirt. That stripping was not in lieu of a patdown; they required her to strip in addition to the patdown.

Where do we draw the line on "anything for security?"
I guess it depends on how safe you want to be. IT is an ENIGMA.
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